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|Posted - 9/27/2000 8:33:55 PM |
Anyone knows what can i do. Any string?
I've tried dissabling error correction but I have the same problem. I'm very dissapionted
MB:Asus CUV4x bios 1006
PIII 733, 128 Ram, Win98SE (also tried with WinME)
Voodoo3 PCI.and the 3CP5610A (Performance Pro Modem)
NET: MTU:576, TTL:128
Viva Chile Mierda!
|Posted - 9/28/2000 1:59:32 PM |
|Posted - 2/6/2001 9:19:08 AM |
I just installed the same modem and i'm having a serious lag problem when playing spades at www.zone.com. I'm not sure i understand what u mean when you say s32=98 please explain.
|Posted - 2/6/2001 7:32:04 PM |
See the link above for "Unreliable"? Visit it and learn more than you realized. Meantime,
|Posted - 2/6/2001 9:25:27 PM |
I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing lag problems with the 5610A. It's by far the best Modem I've ever owned.
S32=98 Limits connections to V.34 (33,600bps) speed.
First, I want to clear something up. Richard, I don't mean to bash you. You're obviously very knowledgeable about analog Modems, and I think it's great that you put up this site, and have continued to maintain it for so long. However, I strongly disagree in your continued recommendation of disabling V.90 for the purpose of clearing up "lag" problems.
You've said it yourself, you don't play online games. Again, I'm not saying I know more about clearing up latency issues on Modem than you do, but I have a better recommendation.
V.34 exhibits higher latency than V.90. Latency to the ISP generally ranges from 137-160ms, while with the V.90 protocol, it ranges from 68-124ms. This is what I have experienced with my connections to the half a dozen ISPs around here.
I own a US Robotics Courier which has "lag" issues. I suggest that you limit the maximum rate at which the Modem is permitted to receive data. This has cleared up my issues, something limiting to V.34 speeds worsens.
So, if you connect at 44,000bps (dial up your Internet Service Provider, double-click on the two computers, and read the number. That's your connection speed.), limit it to 42,666bps. This can be accomplished (assuming you use Windows 95, 98, or ME) by clicking Start, Settings->Control Panel, double-click on Modems, Click on your Modem, Click Properties, Click Connection, Click Advanced. In the box below "Extra Settings", type in &U1&N28
Lower the N28 number by 1 until you no longer experience lag. N27 will yield 41,333bps, N26 will yield 40,000bps, and so forth.
More information can be be found here on this very site. http://808hi.com/56k/x2-linklimit.htm#3Com
You may also try entering S32=34 in the extra settings box. This disables TX Level Deviation, and helps some people achieve better connections.
Again, no hard feelings Richard, this is just my view on the matter.
|Posted - 2/10/2001 8:39:22 AM |
If there were a single answer to every type of problem, things would be a lot easier.
What helps one person may have no effect, or even cause poorer results for another.
I believe one of the best first steps in troubleshooting lag is to check it with and without 56k enabled. My second recommendation is to try limiting speed.
|Posted - 8/2/2001 5:07:37 AM |
Same problem with me. Crappy HL, UT, everything else in between gaming performance. Did not matter what I limited the connect speed to. My old USR ISA 5687 kicks the crap out of this P.O.S.
|Posted - 8/4/2001 2:18:14 AM |
BUY THIS MODEM AS A REPLACEMENT FOR THE 5610A:
I did...and I'm glad I took that P.O.S. 5610A back.
For reference look at my posts here on page 3:
|Posted - 8/12/2001 6:24:11 PM |
I find if you don't have the Performance Pro installed in ones machine works the best.
I'm currently using it as a door jam.
I've also experienced awful lag with the Pro. I've tried all sorts of commands and register setting and still it is laggy as hell.
I would suggest that you return the modem back from where you bought it and stay away from USR products.
Zoom makes good PCI hardware controlled modems, I would suggest them.
I have a low cost SupraMax Monopak modem which cost $40.00 bucks canadian and it games nicely.
I find I have the best results in 33.6 mode.
Put S32=98 under your advanced modem settings for better results. Other than that, most of the other settings don't make any difference what-so-ever. :)
|Posted - 8/13/2001 1:52:07 PM |
Just out of cusiosity,
How many people have actually done any checking to see exactly where the latency in your connection exists? Do you guys actually understand packet routing, and how things get from your system to the game server, and back?
Not bashing, just an honest question, as I have a background in networking, and everyone here seems to just automatically assume it to be the modem - when in actuality, that is normally one of the least likely places for lag to occur...
|Posted - 8/13/2001 8:22:48 PM |
Agreed. I use tracert to see the "hops" going through just to get to a site. A slowdown at one and you're dead in the water, even with DSL.
Rapid explanation here:
|Posted - 8/16/2001 12:23:08 PM |
Yes, I am no newbie and I undestand the basics of the IP protocol and packet routing. I have two almost identical computers that I have built in the last 6 months. I have two phone lines that have the same connection quality and two accounts with the same ISP (for me and a friend to game with individual 56k connections....using ICS with one line would be suicide). I connected with both computers to the EXACT SAME SERVERS in HL, UT, SWAT3, QUAKE3, ELITE FORCE, etc. at the EXACT SAME TIME and my USR 5687 ISA consistently blows away this P.O.S. with smooth gaming performance while the 5610A had random spikes in latency which many times last long enough to be timed out of the server as well as making gaming generally unbearable. I wish it was a problem which could be solved in software or with an init string, but alas it seems that this piece of junk is a hardware nightmare. I am very happy with the performance of the Zoom 2920 that replaced this flawed pile of silicon crap. Using hyperterminal only reinforced my fears as the number of blers, retrains, etc. were many and varied. I used to be a staunch defender of 3COM (still am as I use 3COM NIC's) and USR but as far as I can tell they are not the company they used to be (literally AND figuratively).
|Posted - 8/17/2001 12:02:43 PM |
Ok - point taken. But again, even through the same lines, same ISP POPs, same servers, they can still route differently - hence the question about tracert. On the surface,what you tried seems valid. But you have to remember that when you "connect" to a particular server (game, web, or otherwise) - you are not actually connecting directly to it. Hence, again, the suggestion for the tracert. With a tracert, if you can show a signifigant latency in the first hop, they yes, you have issues between your system and the POP - but if the delays are anywhere down the road, they don't have to do with your system, modem, or ISP (most likely). That's why whenever I get people complaining about lag times and games, ets, that's the FIRST THING I suggest they try - and you might just be surprised. You can run a tracert twice from the same spot, to the same destination, and see how the hops (both times and IPs) change along the way. Just a tip for all gamers who want to find out why they have lag. It can be very educational...
|Posted - 8/17/2001 3:35:21 PM |
I have run Neotrace and tracert on this modem AND my 5687 on THE SAME PHONE LINE to THE SAME ACCOUNT within minutes of each other for the good part of several days to test my "theory" that it was a local hardware problem and not a network issue, as you have suggeted. The 5610A CONSISTENTLY HAS LATENCY ISSUES (LOST PACKETS>>>>HMMMM) where the 5687 (AND the Zoom 2920) SHOW NOWHERE NEAR THE PROBLEMS the 5610A exhibits.
|Posted - 8/17/2001 8:04:26 PM |
Done your homework, now go shopping for a modem
|Posted - 9/1/2001 10:26:32 PM |
I had a generic rockwell modem that was struck by lightning two weeks ago, I put in new phone lines and a new 3com modem with my new PC, I was connecting at 44k max with my old rockwell, with my 3com I now connect at 49k, before my game play was acceptable with ping times around 230-270 now my ping times range from 300 - 7000 and games are not playable, it also ups the lag for everyone. I am buying a zoom tomorrow to see of the problem is the 3com.
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