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evargas
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Posted - 10/30/2001 12:29:26 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I am having a hard time getting my 56K Performance Pro 3CP5610A to work with Bellsouth using V90. Their modems support V90, my line is good has been check by telco and is in optimal conditions. My problem is throughput always below 10 Kbps.

With V90 enabled it CONNECT 49333/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS, to my knowleadge it connects with everything they way to should be, but the throughput is very slow. Look my ping to Bellsouth router:

Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=631ms TTL=254
Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=811ms TTL=254
Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=591ms TTL=254
Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=254

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 90ms, Maximum = 811ms, Average = 530ms

With V90 disabled it CONNECT 33600/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS, only 33.6 kbps ofcourse but check my throughput to the the same router:

Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=255
Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=255
Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=255
Reply from 209.215.205.88: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=255

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 110ms, Maximum = 130ms, Average = 122ms

Here is my ATI6I11Y11 for V90 enabled and after the pings:

U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT Link Diagnostics...

Chars sent 1714 Chars Received 838
Chars lost 0
Octets sent 1046 Octets Received 562
Blocks sent 74 Blocks Received 35
Blocks resent 0

Retrains Requested 0 Retrains Granted 0
Line Reversals 0 Blers 5
Link Timeouts 0 Link Naks 0

Data Compression V42BIS 2048/32
Equalization Long
Fallback Enabled
Protocol LAPM
Speed 45333/28800
V.90 Peak Speed 45333
Last Call 00:00:53

Disconnect Reason is DTR dropped

U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT Link Diagnostics...


Modulation V.90
Carrier Freq (Hz) None/1920
Symbol Rate 8000/3200
Trellis Code None/64S-4D
Nonlinear Encoding None/ON
Precoding None/ON
Shaping ON/ON
Preemphasis (-dB) 0/0
Recv/Xmit Level (-dBm) 17/13
Near Echo Loss (dB) 21
Far Echo Loss (dB) 0
Carrier Offset (Hz) NONE
Round Trip Delay (msec) 7
Timing Offset (ppm) 4494
SNR (dB) 43.7
Speed Shifts Up/Down/Null 0/0/0
Status : uu,5,12N,12.2,-0,1N,800,42.5,0.0

Freq Level (dB)

150 19
300 17
450 17
600 17
750 17
900 17
1050 17
1200 17
1350 17
1500 16
1650 17
1800 17
1950 17
2100 16
2250 16
2400 17
2550 17
2700 17
2850 17
3000 17
3150 17
3300 17
3450 18
3600 20
3750 24
OK


Bob Starnes
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Posted - 10/30/2001 10:30:32 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Pinging has nothing to do with connect speed. At most the only relation pinging has to do with the modem is if the data is corrupted and the modem is requested to resent the packet and this can happen at any speed or protocol.

If you want to check throughput for the modem the download a .zip file of at least 300K and note the speed at which the file downloads, it should be approximately 10% of the connect speed. For example, connected at 45333bps, downloads should be about 4.5K/Sec to 4.6K/Sec. If the download speed is considerably less than 10% of the connect speed then you may need to limit the max connect speed to something less that 45333bps (say 44000 or 42666) in order to increase the throughput.

evargas
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Posted - 10/31/2001 11:30:40 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
What the pings reflect is that with V90 the ping takes more time to travel from my computer to the router at the other end. Its clearly demostrated that with V90 there is a latency.

I have run a couple of download tests and here are the results:

WS_FTP LE (691K) downloaded from ftp1.ipswitch.com:
-With V90: average of 1.0 kbps
-Without V90: average of 3.9 kbps

PDF document (574K) downloaded from ftp.bellsouth.net:
-With V90: average of 850 bps
-Without V90: average of 3.0 kbps

TIA,

Ernesto

Bob Starnes
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Posted - 10/31/2001 10:09:01 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
The only thing the pings are possibly showing is that with the V.90 speed you're connecting at you're getting a lot of resent packets, try lowering the connect speed to something less than 45333bps, say 44000 or 42666 and then check the throughput again.

See http://modemsite.com/56k/x2-linklimit.htm#3Com

Also see http://modemsite.com/56k/gamerslag.htm

evargas
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Posted - 11/1/2001 6:59:44 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I think I have found my problem. Looks line my phone line is not getting above normal DC votalge only 40 V DC and I get a huge amount of noise on the line.

Modulation V.90
Carrier Freq (Hz) None/1920
Symbol Rate 8000/3200
Trellis Code None/64S-4D
Nonlinear Encoding None/ON
Precoding None/ON
Shaping ON/ON
Preemphasis (-dB) 6/0
Recv/Xmit Level (-dBm) 19/13
Near Echo Loss (dB) 21
Far Echo Loss (dB) 0
Carrier Offset (Hz) NONE
Round Trip Delay (msec) 12
Timing Offset (ppm) 4423
SNR (dB) 43.1
Speed Shifts Up/Down/Null 0/0/3
Status : uu,5,12N,12.5,-7,1N,C00,46.4,0.0

Bob Starnes
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Posted - 11/1/2001 1:42:24 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
> Recv/Xmit Level (-dBm) 19/13

Recv and Xmit Levels look ok at the moment.

> SNR (dB) 43.1

Excellent Signal to Noise Ratio

Not sure about your phone line voltage levels but if you have -any- audible noise on the line it will interfer with the connection.

See http://modemsite.com/56k/diag3com.htm for interpretting the ati6i11 data

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