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pauldog
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Posted - 12/4/2001 2:59:47 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
Yet another ISA modem I'm playing with. This one is a USR 28.8/33.6 Winmodem, model ID 00112503. Following USR's website instructions, I downloaded alleged driver WINM336.EXE. It contains elaborate instructions, including ritual worship of a write-protected floppy disk, and sprinkling Shake-N-Bake on the head of one's firstborn 3 nights before and after a full moon with fog. (And me without a firstborn, except maybe a potted plant.)

Even after I sacrificed a (small) goat, the installer still wouldn't run under Win98SE.

Short of replacing Win98 with 95, how can I get this modem working on my PC?

And is there an alternative driver that could yield more speed, as with the Lucent win modems? (No firmware exists, I assume, just drivers?)

pauldog
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Posted - 12/4/2001 3:40:22 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
I found a driver that got me connected at 31.2K. First I went to the Device Manager in the System control panel, and clicked "Refresh". This got Windows to notice the modem, and ask for a driver. It hinted that there was a driver in DRIVER13.CAB in the WIN98 directory of the Windows install disk. I pointed the installer there, and it installed.

I did find a useful file in the installer I downloaded from USR - WMDIAG.EXE (runs in a DOS window), which allows you to change the I/O address and IRQ of the modem.

I suppose V.90 drivers are available from USR for a (high) fee?

pauldog
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Posted - 12/4/2001 4:48:35 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
I tried running the USR Internet Update Wizard, and it actually gave me a free update file. Among other things, it updates WINMODEM.VXD to v2.60, but the modem still only runs at 31.2K. (And my phone line is fine for V.90.)

The updater creates the folder C:\3COM_V90, which contains:

winmodem.inf
Winmodem.VxD
wmdll.dl_
wmexe.ex_
wmldr.vx_

The Update Wizard didn't actually install these drivers in the System folder. I got them to install by pointing the installer to the 3COM_V90 folder when it asked for a location.

Bob Starnes
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Posted - 12/4/2001 9:30:28 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Try dialing into another 33.6k modem, I've found that most often dialing into a V.90 ISP that a V.34 modem will only connect at 31200 due to the ISP's modem negotiating V.90 first, don't know why it happens... just does...
Genny
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Posted - 12/6/2001 3:49:36 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I have formatted my hard drive and am running Windows 98 se. I can't get my modem to install, even though I have the installation disk. I eventually installed the driver by copying it into the Windows driver folder, but the computer didn't like it - said it wasn't the right driver even though I know it is - and then the modem still didn't work. When the computer is looking for the modem, it has trouble finding it although it recognises there is new hardware. Seems to be looking only on com 1 and 2. I have a feeling I've read that the modem must be put on com 3 with IRQ 4 in WQin 98,but no idea how to do this.

Can anyone help or tell me where to find this info? Seems a similar problem to yours.

Genny

Bob Starnes
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Posted - 12/6/2001 7:01:38 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Assuming you have a USR Winmodem, since you didn't state which modem you have, first download the following file from US Robotics:

"Designed for Windows 98 but also works in Windows 95. This file will clean the registry, win.ini and system.ini of Winmodem information thereby ensuring a full uninstall of the Winmodem."

ftp://ftp.usr.com/usr/dl09/wmregdel.exe

Then uninstall the modem in Add/Remove Programs, if listed there.

Next run the wmregdel.exe

Check in the Device Manager for any 'Other' devices, remove any found.

Close all programs and reboot.

When Windows starts it should first find a 'PCI Communications Device' and prompt for the drivers, just point Windows to the disk or folder containing the modem's drivers. Windows should install the device then find and install the modem.

pauldog
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Posted - 12/7/2001 1:16:02 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
Bob, she didn't say if it was PCI or ISA, either. I've found ISA PnP modems to be trickier to install than PCI's - the IRQ selection is limited, and I have to do a lot of fiddling and restarting to avoid conflicts and other problems.

Genny, post your question as a new one on the part of the forum relating to the brand of modem you have.

As for my modem, what I'm wondering is if it's capable of V.90 without a change in hardware, and if the 2.60 driver I downloaded is V.90 capable.

Bob Starnes
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Posted - 12/7/2001 8:13:00 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Just found that out about the USR ISA modem, my neighbor just gave me a 3Com/USR Cable Modem VSP plus (cable modem-V.90/X2 modem combo) which is ISA, had a heck of a time getting it off of IRQ 3 where my Com2 was, wasn't pretty...
pauldog
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Posted - 12/8/2001 10:32:07 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
Bob, it's not just the USR's, I've had fun with various ISA hardware modems. It seems to be partly a BIOS setup problem, and partly a Windows problem. I've found it easier to shut off plug-n-play, and set the jumpers.
Bob Starnes
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Posted - 12/8/2001 12:14:55 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Only problem was, this modem didn't have any jumpers, strictly ISA PnP . Seems to be a good modem, made a 49333bps connection on the first connect. Too bad I don't have the cable hookup, up to 38MB download would be great to have. Not a bad deal though for a freebie...


pauldog
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Posted - 12/9/2001 11:17:14 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
I had similar fun with a Lucent ISA winmodem. Uninstalling and rebooting a few times, and fiddling with relevant assignments in the Device Manager will sometimes do the trick.
Bob Starnes
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Posted - 12/9/2001 1:47:53 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
On this one I had to edit the registry entry for the modem's PnP IRQs, had to add IRQ 10 first and then the Device Manager let me change it otherwise IRQ3 was the only choice.

Funny how Win98 assumes a conflict if you have Com1 and Com2 installed and the modem is on Com3 or 4, Win95 has no problem with it but 98 doesn't like it at all and refuses to let the modem work without first disabling one of the Serial Ports in the BIOS.

pauldog
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Posted - 12/9/2001 4:56:36 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  pauldogs Homepage
That kind of information should be added to the modemsite.com website - it's certainly not common knowledge.
Bob Starnes
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Posted - 12/9/2001 7:40:37 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Well, wasn't real sure of what I was doing, just stumbling though a few things trying to get the modem off IRQ3, think I just got lucky...

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