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duffsparky
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Posted - 12/17/2004 10:18:41 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I have an external VDF modem which will not work properly on XP Pro SP1 or SP2. Forgetting internet connection, I have resorted to Hyper Terminal. Using HT to 'Connect to' using com1, I can get a dial tone and dial out and get my second phone line to ring using the AT commands. But if I try 'Connect to' using my modem and click the 'Dial' button I get a quick flash of, 'Connecting' followed by 'Dialing' followed by 'No Answer', if I then reclick the 'Dial' button the system usually connects to the number dialed and rings the number (in this case my second line phone). I have tried allsorts to correct the problem, but have got nowhere. Can any one help.
Pi
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Posted - 12/17/2004 11:02:34 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
If DUN "Dial Up Networking " is not set to "Wait For Dial Tone" and your local phone system is slow to bring up a dial tone the modem is dialing before the dial tone.

Set DUN to "Wait For Dial Tone" or place a W in front of the number dialed. This will make the modem wait for a dial tone before dialing.
W5555555
If no help post the results of ATi3, ATi5 from modem diagnostics
What brand name is the modem.

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxpmdmch.htm

duffsparky
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Posted - 12/17/2004 2:50:02 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Thanks, had some success with W command before telephone number. Is it possible putting this command in could have altered something for the better, cos now my dial-up to ISP works after a retry (with the W command removed). Hyper Terminal connects after retry same as before.
Command ATD <return> gives me instant dial tone, whereas internet dialup and Hyper Terminal dial up give me no tone on the first try, but tone after about 8 seconds on retry. Below is results from ATI3 to ATI5 & AT&V.

OK
ati3
Venus V.90 kfav163 Serial s71798Vi

OK
ati4
17

OK
ati5
s71798Vi,0,0E

I was going to post the AT&V results but they will require a lot of editing, cos cut and paste jumble the result up.

Modem is an external Paradise 56K Modem Pro. Paradise is now out of business and I cant find any good support. DSP chip is a Lucent(now Agere) 1673 t28. Most modem sites make reference to this chip being used in ISA cards which XP does not support.

Pi
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Posted - 12/17/2004 4:13:00 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
The quick answer to this is to reinstall or update the modem driver with the original Paradise (Wavecom) 56K Modem Pro driver inf file.
I think the Service Packs reinstalled the modem using a generic Lucent Venus driver.

When you click on update driver the current and the original driver used to install the modem should be listed. Use the Paradise or Wavecom driver INF.

If the original driver is not listed or you no longer have the install disk there are several driver web sites that have it.

"""Philips Paradise WaveCom 56K"""
http://www.modem-drivers.com/drivers/0/407.htm

"""Paradise 56K Modem Pro Drivers from original installation cd rom version 1.40 english"""
http://www.modem-drivers.com/drivers/30/30536.htm
Edited by - Pi on 12/17/2004 4:17:03 PM

duffsparky
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Posted - 12/18/2004 3:24:24 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I have done this before, and again just now with a fresh download from driverguide. Same result. Here is the info from the modem properties dialog:-

From Driver tab
Driver Provider LT
Driver Date Not Available
Driver Version Not Available
Driver Signing Not Digitally Signed

Driver File Details
C:/WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Modem.sys
Provider Microsoft Corporation
File Version 5.1.2600.2180(xpsp-sp2rtm.040803-
2158)
ETC ETC

I guess this is the generic driver from XP SP2. Each time I try to reinstall the driver i get the same result. If I delete or rename Modem.sys in the drivers folder will this force XP to look elsewhere for a driver?


Pi
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Posted - 12/18/2004 6:43:47 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Don't rename modem.sys. This is either a TAPI or WinSock II driver and Windows loads these drivers for all modems.

Windows installs Lucent Venus (1673 chip) modems from a INF (information file).
The name of the file you need from the driver package you downloaded is "56pro.inf"

I assume you deleted the modem and rebooted and Windows reinstalled the modem automatically.

Instead of deleting the modem "update" the driver from Device Manager. When Windows asks for the driver location browse to the driver package you downloaded and pick the 56pro.inf file.
http://modemsite.com/56k/xpdevmgr.asp

You should get a warning that the driver is not "Digitally Signed " Click to install driver anyway.
Make sure "Driver Signing " is not set to "Block"
http://www.modemsite.com/56k/xpsign.asp

The name Windows gives to the modem "after" the driver install is taken from the INF file and should not be a generic one like "Lucent Venus Modem".
Should be; "56K External Modem PRO".

Very important;. If the driver appears not to be updating.
The generic modem name does not change in Device Manager after you install the "Paradise WaveCom 56K " driver.
Device drivers have to be install from a Administrator account. in Windows XP Pro
Make sure your signed on to your computer from your Administrator account when you install this driver.

duffsparky
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Posted - 12/18/2004 3:41:40 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Where do I find the modem drivers that are actually being used?
I've used the 'Update Driver' command from the modem properties dialog via 'Modem & Phone Options', also tried same via 'Device Manager'.
Picked 56K.inf, from recent download, copied to HD and floppy.
Modem shown in properties is 56K External Modem PRO.
"Driver Signing " is not set to "Block" it was set to 'Warn' also tried 'Ignore' setting.
My normal login has full admin rights, I tried all the above and more from 'Administrator' login as well.
One thing I haven't tried is installing the Generic Lucent Venus driver. Think I'll give that ago!!!
duffsparky
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Posted - 12/19/2004 5:33:25 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Tried generic Lucent drivers with same results as before except:-
With Lucent Venus Modem connected first time with Internet DUN but could only connect second time on subsequent attempts.
With 56K External ModemON BVRP PhoneTools would not connect.
duffsparky
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Posted - 12/19/2004 5:55:45 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Ammendment to previous posting. Tried generic Lucent drivers with the following results:-

With Lucent External Voice Modem - Internet DUN failed to connect first time but connected on redial. BVRP PhoneTools connected first time but after a very long wait. HyperTerminal would only connect on redial (same as DUN).

With Lucent Venus Modem - Same as for Lucent External Voice Modem above.

With Lucent Venus Modem PNP - Internet DUN connected first time, and on redial but would only connect on redial for subsequent attemps. BVRP PhoneTools connected first time but after a very long wait. HyperTerminal would only connect on redial (same as DUN).

With 56K External ModemON - Internet DUN failed to connect first time but connected on redial. BVRP PhoneTools would not connect at all. HyperTerminal would only connect on redial (same as DUN).

Pi
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Posted - 12/19/2004 9:13:02 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Did the modem dial correctly with Windows XP before SP1 or SP2 was installed.
The modem firmware might be having trouble detecting the local phone companies dial tone. You can try to uncheck "Wait for Dial Tone" in the DUN settings and add comas to the phone number.. ,,,,5555555. The comas add approximately 1 second pause (each) before the modem dials and the modem does not try to detect the dial tone. This is some times needed in countries where the dial tones are not consistent.

I had a similar problem with a Actiontec V90 PCI V90 Call Waiting modem (VEnus 1673 chipset)
If the modems are installed with the newer Actiontec V92 Call Waiting INF file the first dial attempt will fail and the OS reports "The connection failed due to a hardware failure". The second dial attempt always works. Both modems have the same PCI ID number so the OS installs the newest INF not knowing the difference.
Installing the modem with the old V90 INF file always fixes the problem.

"Where do I find the modem drivers that are actually being used?"
When you install the modem a copy of the INF file is put into a hiddenm directory "INF" Yoe have to set windows to show hidden files to see it.

"Modem shown in properties is 56K External Modem PRO."
The name changed so the INF file is installing properly.

P/S
The dial speed can some times be a problem depending on the local phone companyies equipment.
S11=
range is 50-150, lower numbers dial faster. Each unit is ms, 50= 50 ms, 100= 100ms.
The default setting depends on the country code selected

You can override the registry setting, based on the country code , by placing the S11=100 in the modem extry settings. Remember the higher the number the slower the modem dials.

Edited by - Pi on 12/19/2004 9:33:42 AM

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