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mint567
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Posted - 4/14/2003 8:14:58 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Ok, I posted a question how to limit the connect speed to v.90 thinking this would solve the problem but it does not.

The Problem: 5610B connects fine and at good speeds. Pings great through prompt. 90-110. When you enter a game it lags extremely. This happens with the one dialup number that I use for gaming because it pings much better than the others. The others are also not v.92. The one that lags is a qwest based number. The others are a UU.net. It only happens with this particular modem. My creative external pings fine and in game to this number. Any ideas it would be this way with the Usr?
Thanks.

Oh and if I limit the speed with the setting that USR recommends for to cap it at v.90 and the one charles recommended it still does the quick connect. Is it a v.92 usr problem or what? Any ideas?

Here is a tracert to one of the hosts.. example
1 103 ms 100 ms 107 ms nas7.albany1.ga.us.da.qwest.net [63.152.10.103]

2 103 ms 111 ms 96 ms 65.134.82.173
3 117 ms 118 ms 120 ms atl-edge-08.inet.qwest.net [63.152.127.125]
4 116 ms 119 ms 120 ms atl-core-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.77]
5 96 ms 95 ms 115 ms atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.21.106]
6 98 ms 110 ms 114 ms sl-bb22-atl-9-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.29]
7 95 ms 109 ms 94 ms sl-bb21-atl-15-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.12.149]

8 124 ms 119 ms 121 ms sl-bb21-nyc-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.70]

9 119 ms 132 ms 125 ms sl-bb23-nyc-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.109]
10 120 ms 115 ms 114 ms sl-gw31-nyc-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.13.32]
11 113 ms 115 ms 116 ms sl-swb-40-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.26.202]
12 123 ms 119 ms 119 ms ded2-g8-0.nycmny.sbcglobal.net [66.10.48.244]
13 124 ms 114 ms 124 ms 66.10.112.6
14 126 ms 129 ms 133 ms 207.115.48.37
15 207.115.48.37 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

But in the game i will be totally lagged out 999 etc. Ideas?


Anyone see my post? Just curious.


Edited by - mint567 on 4/14/03 5:32:20 PM

Edited by - mint567 on 4/17/03 2:57:11 PM

charles
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Posted - 4/18/2003 12:24:52 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Table6-7 Settings for S32
Bit Value Results
0 1 V.8 Call Indicate enabled.
1 2 Enables V.8 mode.
2 4 Reserved.
3 8 Disable V.34 modulation.
4 16 Disable V.34+
modulation.
5 32 Disable x2 modulation.
6 64 Disable V.90 modulation.
7 128 Disable V.92 Modulation

Try this string in extra setting to see what happens.
S32=128
Might also try this string S32=64

http://www.usr.com/support/5610b/5610b-files/5610b-user.pdf

Edited by - charles on 4/18/03 1:23:17 AM

charles
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Posted - 4/18/2003 1:55:34 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Might want to read this.
http://www.modemhelp.net/vblite/showthread.php3?threadid=925

mint567
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Posted - 4/18/2003 4:17:42 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
oh, I have no problem connecting. I get fine connect speeds. The throughput is not as good as winmodem or external creative, but it is not great. say 4.5k/s. I can connect at v.92 with no problem. I connect at 48000bps. Pings great through prompt as you can see from the earlier post. Its just in games that it will not work. I will try the S32 settings as I figure it has to do with v.92. Unless I was missing something important in the modemhelp.net posts.

I did try limiting to v.90 with the recommended string from usr and it didnt help. Maybe the S32 will provide better results. Also I know this should have no affect on the connection but with the v.90 protocol it pings better and works better on the net to me with all of my modems. Also in games it pings much better. So i have v.92 disabled on them. Thanks for the help. I'll try it

I have too many modems with too many questions nowadays. Used to never have problems :)

charles
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Posted - 4/18/2003 7:51:57 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Slowing the modem down may give you a better ping for games.Most gamers I know use the V34 for a more stable connnection and get a higher upload speed.
http://modemsite.com/56k/gamerslag.asp
mint567
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Posted - 4/18/2003 3:17:53 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Well if i use s32=128 it connects at 14.4.. seems if i specify the modulation or anything it connects at 14.4, but if i just leave it with no init it connects at 48000bps pings great and lags hard in game. cant even be in for one second and it is already lagged.

As far as limiting to v34, it pings worse for me. with v.90 i ping 99 in games to 150

charles
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Posted - 4/18/2003 4:06:40 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Might do like they did here and remove the control center and reinstall the modem.
http://www.modemhelp.net/vblite/showthread.php3?threadid=925

I had to use the Win-2000 compatibility mode to get the controlcenter to download the new stuff.
Edited by - charles on 4/18/03 4:11:07 PM

antcountry
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Posted - 4/29/2003 9:23:16 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
try registry settings, to minimize packet loss. what os are u using?
mint567
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Posted - 4/30/2003 2:01:03 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I am using winxp. I have other modems and they do not do this. It is the v.92 compatibility I beleive. ISP has two dialup numbers one v.90 and the other v.92. The v.92 numbers pings great for games. But the modem will not work on it. The regular v.90 number it pings crappy and the modem works on it.
antcountry
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Posted - 4/30/2003 4:03:43 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
ok i am looking for the link to the reg tweaks site. hopefully i will find it soon! in the meantime. i too love to game online but have no BB available here in rural texas so i am stuck with 56k....funny thing is i am a dsl tech for a major telecomm company!! go figure lol! also i build/rebuild/repair pc's on the site so let me give u some ideas while i try to find the site.....

1) so far this actually is the best modem i have used to date for onlime gaming. i know it has it's little quirks but it lowered my ping in vietcong from 350 to about 160+/- so i could live with it's flaws.

2) i would disable v.92 completely not using the s-strings the string u want is.... +PIG=1 +PMH=1 +PQC=3 ...... EXACTLY like that! u need to have a space between all of them INCLUDING the first one, what i mean is enter an empty space in the advanced box b4 u type the +PIG=1 and then seperate each command with a space. this will completely disable v.92, as i believe v.92 only increases ping which is not what we WANT. keep in mind browsing speed does not always translate to good game ping. in this setting it will still quick dial. but quick dialing is ok it is just dialing the isp number faster.

3)uninstall that modem control center if u haven't already it is junk.

4) if u are using the game mode driver make sure it is enabled b4 u connect.

5)the reason a slow connection sometimes helps is because u are minimizing packet loss= better ping. regular internet browsing is devised differently, has different compression methods etc. etc. a ping on ebay of say 150 doesn't mean you'll ping in a game at the same speed. so remember in order to increase game ping you may have to suffer through slower web browsing. but with the proper reg settings u can acheive this even better. once i find them again that is! but leave it at 56k -baud =115,200 -enable hardware control and DISABLE -modem compression, error correction (remember gaming, not browsing).

6)what do u consider to be a good game ping? to me for 56k i would say it is between 160-240, and i would venture to guess unless u are playing on a miracle server it probably will never get much lower than that. also depends on the game engine itself.

7)other misc tips: make sure you disable all background programs once u connect to isp before u get ready to play online. shut down not only the unneeded running processes via ctrl+alt+dlete. but also what u need to do is click start - run - SERVICES.MSC and disable any services that are absolutely unnecessary to gaming. go to www.tweakxp.com they have an excellent tweak source for disabling programs for gaming machines and it will tell u exactly which u can or cannot disable.

i will search for the link to reg settings in the meantime...i recently reformatted my hard drive and my online storage site is temporarily down for maintenance, which is why i don't have them at hand. in the meantime try the above tweaks they should help out! and any reg tweaks will only enhance performance.
Edited by - antcountry on 4/30/03 4:18:02 PM

antcountry
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Posted - 4/30/2003 4:11:35 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
ps- what game are u playing where u ping at 99-150? and how many players are in the game? the ping times i am refering to are on the new pc game VIETCONG. where sometimes there will be about 50 people. also the graphics are very intensive and cpu demanding hence a higher ping time. so depending on the particular game u are playing all advice i have given so far should actually lower your best ping time on the game. if u haven't tried VC yet as a fellow gamer may i recommend it to u? judging by the title u can probably guess what it's about, if u don't already have it etc. etc. if u love FPS you will definitely love this title!! go to www.vietcong-game.com (from the the DEVS of MAFIA) btw.
Edited by - antcountry on 4/30/03 4:14:51 PM
mint567
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Posted - 5/1/2003 2:51:42 AM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I have a creative external v.92 DE5621 and USR 5610 along with a 1648C and a Best data winmodem v.92. The creative i get those ping times. The traceroute posted here is with the USR though. creative pings 80-90 to the first hop. I get that ping in CS and quake3. And I have disabled v.92 fully with the USR. It is a matter of connect issues between isp and modem. Like I said it doesnt do it on the v.90 number just the v.92. V90 number = uu.net V92 = QWEST. They have different hardware etc i beleive. And the game mode driver for the USR, all it does is disable error control.. thanks for the info tho. I have done plenty of tweaking and it doesnt get much better than 99-150 ping. I think that is able as low as regular dialup on regular phone lines will do. lowest i have seen is 80 in game.
mint567
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Posted - 5/1/2003 1:17:26 PM  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
The modem has some sort of incompatibility with the servers I beleive.

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