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Volor Tl Posts: 78 USA	Posted - 12/26/2000 3:25:43 PM A new ISP, MidAmerica Net, recently began offering a dialup number (just a virtual pop) in the DuQuoin, IL area which is local LD to me, so I decided to try them. Well, so far my experience has been less than pleasant. I get low download speeds and ping times between 300 and 1000ms. What's maddening is that I ping an average of 82-96ms to my ISP's Portmaster, but around 500ms average to the first hop outside of my ISP, which is a UUnet ATM relay in Chicago, IL, but I've had people that I know who have cable ping the same hop and get 30-50ms to it. visualroute.city-guide.com pings 30ms to the hop! I've done speed tests using dslreports.com and my throughput is around 32Kbps down, 21 up despite my 45,333bps connection! I decided to check my diag screens. Richard, please tell me you have a solution to this nonsense. Otherwise, I'm out $20. :( ati11 - What's with the crazy Receive Level? U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT Link Diagnostics... Modulation V.90 Carrier Freq (Hz) None/1920 Symbol Rate 8000/3200 Trellis Code None/64S-4D Nonlinear Encoding None/ON Precoding None/ON Shaping ON/ON Preemphasis (-dB) 8/10 Recv/Xmit Level (-dBm) 74/12 Near Echo Loss (dB) 5 Far Echo Loss (dB) 0 Carrier Offset (Hz) NONE Round Trip Delay (msec) 18 Timing Offset (ppm) 6103 SNR (dB) 45.3 Speed Shifts Up/Down 3/0 Status : uu,5,12N,12.2,-7,1N,0,38.2,21.7 OK U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT Link Diagnostics... Chars sent 18068 Chars Received 16861 Chars lost 0 Octets sent 5783 Octets Received 8542 Blocks sent 695 Blocks Received 361 Blocks resent 2 Retrains Requested 0 Retrains Granted 0 Line Reversals 0 Blers 3 Link Timeouts 0 Link Naks 1 Data Compression V42BIS 1024/32 Equalization Long Fallback Enabled Protocol LAPM/SREJ Speed 45333/24000 V.90 Peak Speed 45333 Last Call 00:02:03 Disconnect Reason is DTR dropped OK Part of aty11- (the rest got cut off in the window) 600 24 750 24 900 24 1050 24 1200 24 1350 24 1500 24 1650 24 1800 24 1950 24 2100 24 2250 25 2400 25 2550 25 2700 25 2850 25 3000 25 3150 27 3300 30 3450 34 3600 40 3750 48 OK I'm using a US Robotics Performance Pro Modem.
SARGE Tl Posts: 743 USA	Posted - 12/26/2000 3:37:03 PM Your RTD (round trip delay) indicates you're being routed to your ISP in another city, etc. While online click start, run. Type command. On screen, type tracert 808news.com and hit enter. Be sure to have a space between tracert and 808news.com. You can type any address here. Note the hops and time it takes for each hop. Save and give a copy to your ISP - they'll want to know where the bogs are (they probably already do). If the ISP has another #, try it and see how performance goes.
Volor Tl Posts: 78 USA	Posted - 12/26/2000 5:14:16 PM That's why I said the number is a Virtual POP. I'm aware it's being routed to another city. Marion, IL to be exact. I've already thought of sending a screenie, but if they're anything like all of the other ISPs around here, they probably don't give a damn. <sigh>
v.Richard Tl Posts: 6222 USA	Posted - 1/2/2001 2:26:32 PM The pings you get on a broadband connection versus dial-up connection to the first few hops (sorry) are like comparing traveling by foot and traveling by jet. This is normal. The first few hops on dialup may be over 100ms but shouldn't be much above 200ms - if so, it would indicate problem with the ISPs connectivity to the backbone, or too many users for the pipe size they have. It appears to me that you have a very marginal line (or the ISP's facilities providers has very poor interconnection to your local telco); specifically the 3750 value of y11 is dangerously close to 50; the problem appears to be the gain overall - ie, the receive levels at all frequencies are way too low (higher number = lower level ). Aloha, Richard

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